Twin Air Powerflow Kit Review on 2 Stroke

Is the Twin Air Powerflow kit worth it?

3/27/2021 12:07 PM

Hey I'thousand wonder if the power flow kit is worth the money. I accept a 2020 Yz250f and they have a problem with the air filters flapping during high rpm and letting dirt in. The concluding little affair does it but utilise normal twin air filters or does it take a special power menses filter.

Lynch

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3/27/2021 12:11 PM

Powerflow kit is a must on a YZF imo, the No Toil kit is cheaper only I have no idea how the quality is. The powerflow kit does use a special filter that will just fit that cage.

Leeham

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3/27/2021 12:14 PM

The special filters cost well-nigh the same as the normal twin airs. If you got the coin, information technology is worth it. Plus a bump in power is nice besides

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yak651

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3/27/2021 12:38 PM

I have the no toil version, same affair with plastic muzzle. Someone mentioned on here that at that place's didn't sit down flat so they sanded it slightly but I didn't notice it on mine. The Twin Air definitely looks more trick!

chump6784

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3/27/2021 1:28 PM

I just bought the twin air filter with the little safe spacer for my 21 450f. The spacer holds the filter off the backfire screen and I find there is much less noise from the air box compared to the stock filter that sits flat. I have non had whatever problems with clay getting past the filter

murph783

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iii/27/2021 1:56 PM
Edited Date/Fourth dimension: 3/27/2021 1:58 PM

On a YZF, yes. That stock flat filter is trash.

And for what information technology'due south worth I've got the no toil version and it works fine. I run either their filters or the concluding gen twin air's cause I had some floating around from my last bike and they fit fine.

Brent

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3/27/2021 1:59 PM

get the No Toil kit, less expensive and better filter IMO...

walent215

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3/27/2021 2:04 PM

No toil is slap-up quality
Never had an issue with them and never worried about making sure I ran back fire proof filters
Buy the no toil
Save $100+ Vs the twin air and buy a rear tire and grips with the saved coin

vitalriderCrf

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three/27/2021 two:36 PM

Accept the NoToil superflow kit on my current bike and ran it on last bike. Over 200 hours of time between both bikes, zero issues. But if y'all're on the Yamaha the TwinAir might be worth it. The No Toil kit just comes with the cage. Y'all don't modify the air box

3/27/2021 3:27 PM

chump6784 wrote:

I simply bought the twin air filter with the little rubber spacer for my 21 450f. The spacer holds the filter off the backfire ...more

chump6784 wrote:

I just bought the twin air filter with the lilliputian rubber spacer for my 21 450f. The spacer holds the filter off the backfire screen and I observe at that place is much less noise from the air box compared to the stock filter that sits apartment. I accept non had whatsoever problems with dirt getting past the filter

So i did the aforementioned matter on mine bike last season and dirt was still getting under the filter.

iii/27/2021 3:28 PM

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Have the NoToil superflow kit on my current bicycle and ran it on last cycle. Over 200 hours of time betwixt both bikes, cipher ...more

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Have the NoToil superflow kit on my current bike and ran it on concluding bike. Over 200 hours of time betwixt both bikes, zero bug. Merely if you're on the Yamaha the TwinAir might exist worth it. The No Toil kit but comes with the cage. You don't modify the air box

Oh I didn't know it only comes with the cage, it doesn't go rid of the backlash mesh?

murph783

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3/27/2021 3:46 PM

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Accept the NoToil superflow kit on my current bike and ran it on last bike. Over 200 hours of time between both bikes, cipher ...more

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Take the NoToil superflow kit on my current bicycle and ran it on last bicycle. Over 200 hours of time betwixt both bikes, zero issues. Simply if you're on the Yamaha the TwinAir might be worth information technology. The No Toil kit only comes with the muzzle. You don't modify the air box

GetItOnLikeTron wrote:

Oh I didn't know information technology simply comes with the cage, it doesn't get rid of the backfire mesh?

GetItOnLikeTron wrote:

Oh I didn't know information technology only comes with the cage, it doesn't get rid of the backlash mesh?

Yes it does

Vet57

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3/28/2021 3:34 AM

Been using the TA PF kit on all my YZs since 18' thru 21'. Well worth the investment imo.

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3/28/2021 8:44 AM

Never had any filter/clay issues with my '18 YZ250F but can someone explicate the advantages of the TwinAir pro flow kit to me?

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Zycki11

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3/28/2021 9:00 AM

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt issues with my 'xviii YZ250F simply tin someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro flow kit to me?

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt problems with my 'xviii YZ250F but tin can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro flow kit to me?

More airflow equals quicker throttle response as well as I believe a claim of 1-2hp. It does work well. If you do that with a pipage, vortex ecu, and good fuel yous are adding 5hp.

iii/28/2021 10:15 AM

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt issues with my '18 YZ250F but can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro flow kit to me?

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt problems with my '18 YZ250F but can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro catamenia kit to me?

Zycki11 wrote:

More airflow equals quicker throttle response too as I believe a merits of 1-2hp. It does piece of work well. If you exercise that with a ...more

Zycki11 wrote:

More airflow equals quicker throttle response as well as I believe a claim of one-2hp. It does work well. If y'all do that with a pipe, vortex ecu, and skilful fuel you are adding 5hp.

I'll probably add together that to my listing lol. I currently take a FMF megabomb with the aluminum manufacturing plant 4.ane and running VP T4 fuel. I've got a GYTR power tuner I demand to hook upward and play around with. Just never had any feel using a tuner before

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Zycki11

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iii/28/2021 x:40 AM

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt issues with my '18 YZ250F merely tin can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro menses kit to me?

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had whatever filter/dirt issues with my '18 YZ250F but can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro menstruation kit to me?

Zycki11 wrote:

More airflow equals quicker throttle response as well as I believe a claim of 1-2hp. It does work well. If y'all exercise that with a ...more than

Zycki11 wrote:

More than airflow equals quicker throttle response as well as I believe a claim of 1-2hp. It does piece of work well. If you lot exercise that with a pipage, vortex ecu, and good fuel you are adding 5hp.

eric513anderson wrote:

I'll probably add that to my list lol. I currently have a FMF megabomb with the aluminum factory 4.1 and running VP T4 fuel. I ...more

eric513anderson wrote:

I'll probably add that to my list lol. I currently accept a FMF megabomb with the aluminum factory iv.1 and running VP T4 fuel. I've got a GYTR power tuner I demand to claw up and play around with. Only never had whatever experience using a tuner earlier

If you are running T4 with frazzle so I call back it would be smart to either have twisted development or Tokyo mods reflash your ecu for what you are running. Or spend the $600 and you would have a much more precise tuning with the vortex that allows college rpms and a better ability spread

3/28/2021 six:xv PM

Zycki11 wrote:

More airflow equals quicker throttle response also every bit I believe a claim of ane-2hp. It does work well. If you do that with a ...more

Zycki11 wrote:

More airflow equals quicker throttle response as well as I believe a claim of 1-2hp. It does work well. If y'all do that with a piping, vortex ecu, and adept fuel you are adding 5hp.

eric513anderson wrote:

I'll probably add that to my list lol. I currently have a FMF megabomb with the aluminum factory 4.1 and running VP T4 fuel. I ...more

eric513anderson wrote:

I'll probably add that to my list lol. I currently have a FMF megabomb with the aluminum manufactory 4.one and running VP T4 fuel. I've got a GYTR power tuner I need to hook up and play around with. Only never had any feel using a tuner earlier

Zycki11 wrote:

If you are running T4 with exhaust then I call back information technology would be smart to either have twisted evolution or Tokyo mods reflash ...more

Zycki11 wrote:

If you are running T4 with exhaust so I think it would be smart to either take twisted development or Tokyo mods reflash your ecu for what you lot are running. Or spend the $600 and you would have a much more precise tuning with the vortex that allows higher rpms and a better power spread

Cheers for the info. I'g going to talk to Tokyo Mods

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1996 Yamaha Banshee 350 -Trails
1982 Chevy S10
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murph783

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12/26/2021 3:37 PM

Old thread, merely anyone attempt running the last gen twin air filters with the twin air kit? On a YZF in particular. Simply ditched the no-toil kit for the twin air. Tried the no toil filters and they're too modest by just a hair, tore i putting it on. The last gen twin air filters fit, simply don't accept the little extra textile to go effectually the centering pin. I can't see why it would cause an issue, just just wanted to put it out at that place to the vital brain trust.

profeshenal125

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12/26/2021 7:30 PM

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt issues with my '18 YZ250F just can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro flow kit to me?

eric513anderson wrote:

Never had any filter/dirt problems with my '18 YZ250F simply can someone explain the advantages of the TwinAir pro menses kit to me?

Much more sleek design air should go in quicker. I was just thinking today I need to order 1 for the 125.

TheGetFresh

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12/26/2021 7:41 PM

Is this a critical upgrade for the current gen YZ450? I'thousand happy with the power merely worried nigh clay/grit ingress.

Sandusky26

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12/26/2021 8:57 PM

Does anyone else have a problem sucking dirt using no toil?

murph783

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12/27/2021 5:50 AM

TheGetFresh wrote:

Is this a critical upgrade for the current gen YZ450? I'm happy with the power but worried about clay/dust ingress.

TheGetFresh wrote:

Is this a critical upgrade for the current gen YZ450? I'yard happy with the ability just worried well-nigh clay/dust ingress.

Personally, I don't trust and have been told by people who would know not to trust the stock setup. The twin air regular filter is manifestly better than stock, but I know I trust the power period setup more.

MXMattii

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12/27/2021 half-dozen:43 AM

Try one funnelweb filter. They are astonishing and y'all tin can put information technology in your bicycle (at home) race a full weekend and get it out your bike back at home, without losing HP.

sandtrack315

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12/27/2021 7:39 AM

Powerflow kit is "worth it" on any bike. It's almost ever better designed and a tighter seal than the stock unit. Yous spend 1k on an exhaust, spend 200-300 to make certain you aren't sucking dirt.

Moto520

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12/27/2021 7:59 AM

TheGetFresh wrote:

Is this a critical upgrade for the current gen YZ450? I'm happy with the power just worried well-nigh clay/dust ingress.

TheGetFresh wrote:

Is this a critical upgrade for the current gen YZ450? I'm happy with the ability but worried about dirt/dust ingress.

I wouldn't say critical upgrade. I've run the stock setup for 85 hours and everthing has piece of work skillful. You lot do have to stay on tiptop of filter service. If y'all are the type to change the filter every ride then stock is fine. Yous just have to be conscientious when taking the filter out.....the wire mesh catches most of the debris that yous might miss.

Worth getting? Yes. Critical upgrade? No

HondaFan33

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12/27/2021 eight:18 AM

murph783 wrote:

Former thread, but anyone try running the terminal gen twin air filters with the twin air kit? On a YZF in particular. Just ditched ...more

murph783 wrote:

Old thread, only anyone try running the last gen twin air filters with the twin air kit? On a YZF in item. Just ditched the no-toil kit for the twin air. Tried the no toil filters and they're too small by just a pilus, tore ane putting it on. The terminal gen twin air filters fit, but don't accept the picayune actress material to go effectually the centering pin. I tin't see why it would crusade an event, only but wanted to put it out there to the vital encephalon trust.

I just got the not toil kit last month. I hold filters are besides small-scale. And I'one thousand not overly impressed with the foam either. Very stiff difficult to oil, while non existence very thick at the same time. Wishing I had spent the extra for the no toil kit. I had purchased several twin airs for the stock setup initially and I received 3 differently manufactured filters, varying thickness all aforementioned part #. Guess you never know what you lot will get.

I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, and you tin keep the "modify"

murph783

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12/27/2021 9:05 AM

murph783 wrote:

Old thread, just anyone try running the concluding gen twin air filters with the twin air kit? On a YZF in particular. Just ditched ...more

murph783 wrote:

Former thread, but anyone try running the concluding gen twin air filters with the twin air kit? On a YZF in particular. Just ditched the no-toil kit for the twin air. Tried the no toil filters and they're as well small-scale by only a pilus, tore ane putting information technology on. The last gen twin air filters fit, but don't have the little extra material to become around the centering pin. I can't see why it would cause an issue, simply just wanted to put it out there to the vital brain trust.

HondaFan33 wrote:

I merely got the not toil kit final month. I hold filters are too small. And I'm not overly impressed with the foam either. Very ...more

HondaFan33 wrote:

I just got the non toil kit final month. I concord filters are likewise modest. And I'thousand not overly impressed with the cream either. Very stiff hard to oil, while not being very thick at the same time. Wishing I had spent the extra for the no toil kit. I had purchased several twin arrogance for the stock setup initially and I received 3 differently manufactured filters, varying thickness all same part #. Guess you never know what you will become.

I didn't mind the no toil kit peculiarly, I just wanted the billet muzzle instead of plastic and so I went to twin air. The no toil filters I had were alright on that setup, I merely meant they wouldn't stretch over the new twin air kit

jridout12

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3/11/2022 ten:13 AM

Does anyone know if I can withal use my twin air wash cover with the power flow kit? Thinking near getting a power flow kit for my 22'

motoxrocks

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3/11/2022 12:07 PM
Edited Date/Time: three/11/2022 12:fourteen PM

Different encompass for the Power Menstruum kit. Replaces the entire flange so filter is held on by a center bolt rather than the folding tabs. I would ever lay the bike on its side when changing the air filter and then dirt wouldn't autumn down the elevator shaft.

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